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World Changer Interview Series – Nicholas Burtner Interviews Elaine Ingham

The world’s leading soil scientist and creator of the Soil Food Web, Dr Elaine Ingham, sits down to a fun and down to earth interview with Nicholas Burtner where she answers many questions of how she got to be where she is today, plus many other GMO and soil goodies.

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Nicholas Burtner

Nicholas is a permaculture practitioner, advocate, consultant, teacher and speaker. After a greater calling in 2011, permaculture found Nicholas and since has filled him with an endless passion that has led him to many travels, learning, spreading, and practicing permaculture and natural living ever since. Apart from consulting and designing properties across a large arena of different climates and bio-regions, Nicholas has attended internships at the Permaculture Research Institute of Australia under the leadership of Geoff and Nadia Lawton. He also obtained a permaculture design certification from Geoff Lawton and Bill Mollison. Nicholas has also attended the Earthship Academy for natural and recycled building construction in Toas, NM under the guidance of Michael Reynolds. After very worthwhile learning, and on the ground experiences, Nicholas opened Working With Nature Permaculture Learning, Research, and Healing Center in late 2012 which is now School of Permaculture. The school has both an urban and a rural demonstration / educational site which offer hands on experience as well as class room learning. School of Permaculture’s website offers permaculture related tips, videos, and articles on a mostly daily basis.


  1. I watched Elaine Ingham talk “The roots of your profits” at the Oxford Real Farming Conference. It captures it all in a nut. Get the soil biology right and you can grow anything. Get it wrong and you end up with a what we have now. A system dependent on man made chemicals that kills the biology and turns “soils into dirt”, as quoted by Elaine.

    There is so much we need to change (to unlearn) to live with nature not against it.


  2. What type of compost tea should i apply to the acidic peat moss soil to grow alfalfa? Should it be more fungi or bacteria dominated, or maybe balanced?

  3. Its an honour to listen to yr Dr. Infact i sollicite your mentorship for this challenging domain. i am actually a phd student on soil fauna cand fertility

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