Only a few are willing to risk arrest for the sake of an utopian outcome. Ted ‘The Unabomber’ Kaczynski obviously occupies the upper right corner. Starhawk, Bill McKibben and David Graeber are not lighting any fuses but at least have what they think are better plans, or maybe just better processes.
Our post stirred the hornet’s nest and so we have found it necessary to revisit those star charts and try to probe their signs and portents with renewed care.
First, we have to acknowledge that our scatter chart has no basis in actual data. It is merely a mind map, and as such it has its uses and its limitations. The map is not the territory, as we know, so what is it? Mostly, it is a way to visualize complex relationships and hopefully gain insight that doesn’t just pop out from a photograph, the written word or columns of numbers.
In this case, we were attempting to depict where David Holmgren’s shift in strategy took him within the matrix of climate/peak oil prognosticators. We were using charts to illustrate that he had shifted from advocating passive transformation to urging proactive crash.
The feedback we received was, on the whole, good natured and valuable. Naturally there were many names that readers felt had been left out of the matrix — Dave Cohen, Dave Pollard, David Graeber, Ugo Bardi, Charles Eisenstein, Buckminster Fuller, Larry Korn, Carolyn Baker, Sister Sage and Kathy MacMahon, to name a few absent without our readership’s leave.
Michael Ruppert said about this chart:
I am not a product of, or measurable by, Cartesian 3D tools.
Carolyn Baker said:
I’m not even on the chart, thank God. I stand with Mike. Who needs more quantifying, categorizing, labeling, separating, binary, limiting, left-brain, Cartesian tools? This is precisely why we are living the current nightmare. This chart is only more of industrial civilization’s three-dimensional drivel. I’m not on the chart because everything I stand for cannot be charted. In this instance, I love being marginalized!
Some of the other people who were represented by dots on the map weighed in with their own thoughtful essays. Dmitry Orlov wrote:
If, like Holmgren says, 10% of the population boycotted global finance, and global finance crashed, Brown Tech would probably just shut down, because its activities are very capital-intensive. Now, since our voices — Holmgren’s and mine and those of other people who may be consonant with Holmgren’s message — are mainly projected through blogs, I can do some math and figure out how many me-equivalents it would take to bring about the required change in global sentiment.
This particular blog gets around 14k unique visitors a month [Editor’s note: Dmitry is referring to his own blog, not the PRI blog, which gets significantly more visitors]. Let’s assume a sky-high conversion rate of 50%, where half of my readers pledge to support Homgren’s boycott. That’s 7k people. Global population is 7 billion, 10% of that is 700 million. Dividing one into the other, we get our result: it would take on the order of 100,000 me-equivalent activists/bloggers to bring about the required change of consciousness. Next question: how many me-equivalent (give or take) bloggers are there out there?[…]
[O]f the 22 activists/bloggers on Albert’s chart, how many might go along with the plan? We already know that Rob Hopkins wants us to count him out. He wrote that Holmgren’s Crash on Demand "isn’t written for potential allies in local government, trades unions, for the potential broad coalitions of local organisations that Transition groups try to build, for the diversity of political viewpoints…" Yes, I can see why local govenments might take a dim view of a plan to zero out their budgets, and why the trade unions might not be enthused by a plan that would put their entire rank and file on the unemployment line. I guess Hopkins’ "potential broad coalitions" will just have to wait for collapse rather than try to bring it about. Potentially, that is.
Not that any of that matters, of course, because, even if we assume that everyone will go along with Homgren’s plan, dividing one into the other we still get a 99.98% shortfall in the required number of activists/bloggers. La-de-da. But don’t let that stop you from trying because, regardless of results (if any) it’s a good thing to be trying to do.
KMO, in his post entitled "Dirty Pool", dissected the controversy by looking closely at the differences between the positions of David Holmgren and Nicole Foss.
Notice that David and Nicole are advocating the same course of action.
They differ on what rationale to present in order to motivate people to divest themselves from the disempowering and dysfunctional system of Brown Tech control, but they both advocate withdrawing support for and engagement with the over-developed, larger-than-human scale systems of techno-industrial civilization and re-investing those energies and resources at the level of the family and the local community. The discussion here is how to frame the situation for the increasing number of people who are starting to realize that the industrial system will not make good on the promises and commitments it made to its subjects in the midst of its expansion.
This really demonstated for us how delicate and nuanced the distinctions between the collapsenik community were. Moreover, to really represent the available rationales would require a more sophisticated mind map, such as used by Dave Pollard in his review of David Graeber’s book, The Democracy Project.
Taking another crack at our chart, we decided to try relabeling the axes and shifting some of the positions.
One problem we have is that the lower left is overcrowded while the upper right (civil resistance ecotopians) has only a few willing to risk arrest for the sake of an utopian outcome. Ted "The Unabomber" Kaczynski obviously occupies the upper right corner. Starhawk, Bill McKibben and David Graeber are not lighting any fuses but at least have what they think are better plans, or maybe better processes. Joel Salatin makes it to that quadrant because he is ready to defy the FDA/USDA Gestapo on issues like raw milk and mobile beef harvesters.
Ray Kurzweil anchors the top left because he sees no need to confront authority — it will be carried away in the tsunami of change over which it has almost zero control. Elon Musk has similar confidence albeit less utopian cultural zeal. More moderate transformers, Michael Shuman, for instance, with his Small-Mart concepts, or Woody Tasch, replacing monolithic banks with local lending circles, and Ellen Brown, making the case for state-owned currencies (and running for Treasurer of California now) are trying to reform, not subvert, which places them to West of illegal and North of collapse.
Another useful addition is Robert Constanza, who can stand in for a long list of new economists that see a potentially very rapid adoption path for a successor metric to GDP — giving the G8 and the Davos Forum a new set of tools that integrate current knowledge of how ecology, economics, psychology and sociology collectively contribute to establishing and measuring sustainable well-being. We blogged about this in 2010, when we met Bhutan’s Minister of Happiness at the Cancun Climate Summit, and again from Rio de Janeiro in 2012.
Reframing “violence” (that no one seeks) to “resistance” and making the middle line a division between active and passive (or legal and illegal) seems likely to satisfy many of the chart’s critics.
Some insights that the new chart may evoke: some reconstructionists of the top right regard collapseniks on the lower left as lazy while the doomers at bottom right likely consider the activities of the reformers on the upper left to be futile gestures.
Steven Morris suggested a dynamically updated map. The internet could be scanned for all the articles and conversations by our selected group of authors. Then using AI, their position on the map could be adjusted as what they write changes. Kind of like a tag cloud, only more elaborate.
Harold P Boushell said if you are going that far, how about allowing nth-points on a circle such as: Peaceful Transformation, Collapse, Singularity, Civil War 2, Space-Asteroids, Nuclear War, Electric-Grid-Failure, Methane-Eco-Collapse, and the Jetsons. This reminded us that we already did this in 2005, using familiar science fiction films.
Below are five slides lifted from slide shows we ran from 2006 to around 2010. By 2009 we were getting so tired of it we were already making fun of ourselves, calling it "The Baterix."
We divided up the future into quadrants, using something like the compass Holmgren adopted for his Future Scenarios: How Communities Can Adapt to Peak Oil and Climate Change (March 2009).
Into this grid we dropped the Jetsons and the Flintstones.
Then we suggested a few more apocalyptic films and urged the audience to think of their own favorites and where they might fit.
Finally, we brought that home into the realm of practical planning — what do you do to prepare, given how much or little weight you place on various scenarios?
Preparations, we pointed out, generally involve building local community, because the idea of going it alone is strictly the stuff of old time Westerns, and bears no connection to the real world. If you want to get a local community to come together, a great way to begin is over a nice homecooked meal. That is why our Post Petroleum Survival Guide was also a cookbook.
Which brings us to some advice Dmitry Orlov included in his Holmgren review. He wrote:
Can kitchen-gardening make a difference at a national scale? Yes it can. It has and it will again. There is just one problem: foodies. They don’t want to merely survive by eating a balanced diet of potatoes, turnips, cabbage and rye periodically augmented with guinea pig stew; they want fresh, delicious produce and fancy recipes. I’ve often thought that a good trifecta for a collapse-related blog to hit would be to incorporate climate change, peak oil and delicious, healthy, organic, local food. There could be three tabs: near-term human extinction got you down? Click on another tab and look at some luscious, mouth-watering tomatoes. But if the foodies can be reigned in, then kitchen-gardening becomes something of survival value.
Sigh. That trifecta was how we began our blog, and yes, we agree, we have somehow strayed. But its never too late! Herewith our winter recipe, borrowed from the pages of this morning’s The New York Times.
If you go to the Times and read the original piece by Melissa Clark, and watch the demo video of how she makes these cookies, please note the bubbly sound track as the cookie dough goes into the oven (at minute 2:15). Baby Boomers may be carried back to the soundtrack from My Little Margie or Father Knows Best. This, friends, is really New York City in the winter!
Oatmeal Sandwich Cookies
Total time: 1 hour 15 minutes
Forget all the bad, soggy oatmeal cookies you’ve ever had in your life. Picture instead a moist-centered, butterscotch-imbued, crisp-edged cookie flecked with nubby oats. Add to this the fragrant nuttiness of toasted coconut. Then subtract any chewy raisins that may have accidentally wandered into the picture, and substitute sweet, soft dates, guaranteed not to stick in your teeth. Now mentally sandwich two of these cookies with a mascarpone-cream cheese filling. And that’s what you’ll find here. An oatmeal cookie with a little something extra, a recipe made for keeping. You can bake the cookies a few days ahead, but they are best filled within a few hours of serving.
For the cookies
- 80 grams shredded sweetened coconut flakes (3/4 cup)
- 1 cup unsalted butter, softened
- 330 grams packed dark brown sugar (1 3/4 cups)
- 2 tablespoons honey
- 2 large eggs, at room temperature
- 1 tablespoon vanilla extract
- 190 grams all-purpose flour (1 1/2 cups)
- 7 grams fine sea salt (1 teaspoon)
- 3 grams baking powder (1 teaspoon)
- 8 grams ground cinnamon (4 teaspoons)
- 260 grams rolled oats (3 cups)
- 100 grams dates, pitted and chopped (1/2 cup)
- 65 grams granulated sugar (5 tablespoons)
For the filling
- 6 ounces cream cheese, softened
- 6 tablespoons mascarpone
- 25 grams confectioner’s sugar (3 tablespoons)
- 1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract
- Heat oven to 350°F. Spread coconut flakes on a rimmed baking sheet. Toast, stirring occasionally, until lightly colored and fragrant, 7 to 10 minutes. Cool. Raise oven temperature to 375°F.
- In the bowl of a mixer fitted with the paddle attachment, cream the butter until light. Beat in brown sugar and honey, then beat until very fluffy, about 5 minutes. Beat in eggs, one at a time. Beat in vanilla.
- In another large bowl, whisk together flour, salt, baking powder and 1 teaspoon (2 grams) cinnamon. With the mixer set on low, beat flour mixture into butter mixture until combined. Beat in oats, dates and toasted coconut.
- Line three baking sheets with parchment paper. In a small bowl, stir together granulated sugar and remaining 3 teaspoons (6 grams) cinnamon. Roll heaping tablespoonsful of dough into balls, then roll balls in cinnamon sugar; transfer to baking sheet, leaving about 1 1/2 inches of space between dough balls. Bake until cookies are golden brown, about 15 minutes. Let cool in the pan for 2 minutes, then transfer to a wire rack to cool completely.
- Make the filling: Using the electric mixer fitted with the paddle attachment, beat cream cheese until smooth. Beat in mascarpone, confectioner’s sugar and vanilla. Scrape down sides of bowl. Sandwich about 1 tablespoon of filling between two cookies; repeat with the remaining filling and cookies.
Yield: About 36 cookies, for 18 sandwiches.
I’m finding that this conversation is, in a good way, pushing me to nail down my own position. The “About” section on my blog says “This is a blog about food that is good for you, good for the planet, and just plain good … all at once! I firmly believe a very good, even the best quality of life, and an ecological footprint that evaporates behind you are not just compatible, but essential to each other, and food – gardening, shopping and cooking – is a good place to start with the how.” Drawing the foodies’ attention to the living cycles that create food has been the spot where I think, in permaculture terms, I can apply the least energy for the greatest effect. But the people who I list under “My thinking is shaped by” all seem to be on the right hand side of the matrix. I think we’re now working to salvage as much as possible for the coming Dark Ages, but that’s a thing worth doing and there’s hope of saving quite a lot.
Oh dear. It strikes me that there are far too many folk with far too much time on their hands, culminating in this type of pointless ‘pin the tail on the donkey’ type game.
Who cares about the nuances of positioning the various activists and authors of discourses on paths to projected futures? All of them have valid points of view and none of them can be criticised as being wrong at this point because the futures under discussion have not yet happened (unless of course you take a quantum view of space-time). Hindsight will be the eventual arbiter of who is giving good advice or not, not some two-dimensional or even 3D graphical depiction.
Sensible people will perform their own analysis of all available advice and knowledge, intermixed with their own personal views, to reach their own conclusions about what is good and reasonable, meaningful and likely. Focussing on any single quadrant of the spectrum of possibilities would be both limiting and narrow minded. Generally speaking, it appears to me that people with a genuine concern and interest in this space would understand the reasoning behind that. Of course, I could be wrong.
The charts are more sensiblen, now. R2D2 and C3PO standing in the desert are sure to be cheered as a sure bet! But I’m disappointed in myself concerning the list of ingrediants, all I can come up with is the honey.
How do I say this, this is just like standing on the deck of the Titanic and classifying the various groups of people trying to save themselves while the ship is sinking.
Too much left brain reductionism like this is a product of a directionless, heartless, soul-less and value-less modern western culture that is the very root of the problem itself.
Maybe for further amusement we can plot parallel timelines to show the predicted collapse of different population groups. Does this remind anyone of the historical incident where Nero sat there and played the fiddle while Rome burnt to the ground???
Perhaps we can go out and plant some trees instead…