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Bill Mollison

Geoff Lawton

Michael Mackenzie, from ABC Rural Radio’s ‘Bush Telegraph‘ segment, recently spoke with Bill Mollison and Geoff Lawton about Permaculture. You can listen to the clip in its entirety here (16 min, 7.5mb MP3). To download the file, simply right-click on the link and choose ‘Save Link As’ (Firefox) or ‘Save Target As’ (Internet Explorer).

When asked if he thought Permaculture would go very far when he was first starting to lay the foundations in the 1970s, Bill’s reponse was the only answer that can realistically be given: “Yes”. As he went on to say, the world is heading into trouble, and there really isn’t another viable escape route. Sooner or later Permaculture must become the all-absorbing theme for humanity, or else….

The sooner world leaders begin to realise this, and the sooner the world’s citizenry demand it, the less painful the transition.

2 Comments

  1. “The sooner world leaders begin to realise this…”

    It is frustrating to watch the Murray die, salt rise, soil compacted or blown away because the recognition of a better design system isn’t there. It is even more frustrating watching the government blow the surplus trying to stimulate consumption and build more roads when we need to be training large numbers of people to produce food and fibre in sustainable ways.

    What’s being done to promote Permaculture? Are there broad acre Permaculture sites in low rainfall areas of Australia we can publicise in order to demonstrate its viability? Something along the lines of the ‘Greening the Desert’ project in Jordan. It may help to have something sensational to raise PC’s profile in order to shake the idea that industrial agriculture is the only serious way to farm. Are the CSIRO and DPI aware of PC? What about sending information to farmers directly? Does PC need to be more proactive?

  2. we have to remember that modern politics are committed to creating taxable incomes not interested in sustainability, with sustainability comes independence, with independence we become more co-operative and less competitive, co-operation is often not taxable….

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